This post is really for me. I want to think through some dating pace ideas. I've now had four dates with A-- all of which have been very long compared to my typical dates, and the last two have ended with him staying over the night. As I mentioned in the previous post, I really haven't connected with someone so well before, and its absolutely a consequence of congruent personalities. Its quite interesting to me, because every other person I've dated always had some divergent personality traits that didn't click up with me 100%. At the time, I wrote it off as "well I'm weird so no one will really click" and moved on. And don't get me wrong -- I still liked those relationships too-- and even fell "in love" a couple of times.
For A I think all of the pieces are there: (1) he is emotionally mature, open, and able to communicate his intents and feelings. I always felt that I was an over-communicative person, and I actually like that. I think its really a hallmark of self-actualization and maturity. (2) He seems to be able to disarm my insecurities and make me feel comfortable with him -- and I know that I do the same for him as well. (3) I know we're both pleased with each others physical appearance. (4) I think we're both passionate people that are curious and interested in the world and human behavior. (5) We both want similar goals-- we both want someone to share life with.
So I think we have all of our ingredients together-- now its just time to bake this fucking cake. And I do feel that one can fuck up perfectly good relationships by sloppy execution. New relationships are always tricky because you are embarking on something that will change your daily life (possibly, if it goes well), and at the beginning the overwhelming excitement and novelty of the possible future is intoxicating. As that new car scent wears off is when the real stuff starts.
So 4 dates -- we're still "dating". Although he did talk about "where this was heading" and mentioned boyfriends, which I agreed that was what I wanted as well. It's too early to put labels unnecessarily as that puts weird constraints and tension and expectations. I love the fact that he wants to talk about it -- because that's what I have always wanted in a relationship that has always been lacking: mature, honest conversation. (1) So how long to wait until we talk about labels? a month? (2) How long before meeting family? Both of us are out to our moms, but not whole family -- so that doesn't really matter. (3) How long before saying "I love you"? a month as well?
I guess I feel like 4-6 weeks is enough time for the new scent to wear off if you are seeing each other every couple days. Then once that's happened words like "boyfriend" and "love" have much more meaning. What would it even mean to call someone a boyfriend after just a few weeks?
I don't want us to get burnt out early or too over-bearing too early. Like I said all signs are pointing to "go" right now -- and the red flags of "over clingy-ness" or "unrealistic expectations" or "complete immaturity" are nowhere to be found. This is more difficult for me as I have a really busy life and I am easily distracted. I certainly don't want to fuck up what I have worked for either -- I want to manage both well. I think I can do it. I hope I can do it.
*fingers crossed*
Steve
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I'm risk-averse. I don't say "Love" to many people. My parents, my bro, our dog, and DJ (and only DJ out of my past relationships).
It took us months to get to the "love" stage, but we both are fairly-bad at expressing our emotions.
This is cool. I'm jazzed for you, and (to be honest) jealous!
ha yea im risk averse too lol which is certainly the reason for the anxiety about the pace anyways :)
Interesting it took months -- I think thats good really. I think it should take months -- otherwise it wouldnt be meaningful.
I have said love to the two relationships that I've had that were longer than a couple months. In the first case, I was in love with him-- which was stupid because it was a terrible relationship but whatever. And then I told L that I loved him once -- he never said the same to me.
I'm surprised you say you both are fairly bad at expressing emotions. do you think thats due to him or due to you? Is that the consequence of some insecurities?
And thanks :) i'm so happy right now-- I hope I stay this way :)
Steve
Hi there, Steve
I'm glad to hear you're happy with A, because I think you have deserved this happiness for a long time.
As for "dating pace", I don't have much experience to go on, but it feels to me that a fixed timeframe may not be appropriate - I would suggest rather that you judge it by how you feel about him. One test (not a nice one, I'm afraid): how would it feel if you were to lose him from your life, entirely, without warning? The strength of your response to that question may guide you.
Best of luck: I hope very much that you can make this work.
Take care
Mark
Thanks mark!
Since this post we've had a few more dates. We see each other every other day now and I know that we both miss our company when we're not around each other -- so -- I think things are going well still :)
I think your thought experiment is interesting-- I asked myself that question and I had a strong bad feeling -- but it was more a bad feeling of "what might come of this" than "what _has_ come of this"... I mean that I would be sad, because I think that the A's in my life will be very rare, and so I'm excited what the next few months (hopefully more) will bring. So if he were to leave now, of course I would miss him as I've enjoyed the last few weeks thoroughly, but I would really miss what "might happen". This is the real first relationship, where I have really felt that on every level. Not to say I wasn't "in" the other relationships-- I was-- and I cared about those people as well, but nothing like this.
So I'm not really sure what that means -- can I love the "hope" of something? Or maybe once my answer shifts from "what will happen" to "what did happen" -- that will be my sign of "love". I don't know. I'm sure it doesn't require this much analysis-- but I'm an analytical person.
but I'm definitely able to go with the flow and see what happens :)
Steve
Hi there, Steve
I think I was looking more for the intensity of the response than the analysis of what it related to. A "strong bad feeling" certainly sounds like love to me, even if the reason why you felt bad is different now from what it might be six months or a year from now.
If you miss each other when you're apart, I would suggest: be together more!
Take care
Mark
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